The Black Hole War: My Battle with Stephen Hawking to Make the World Safe for Quantum Mechanics


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At the beginning of the 21st century, physics is being driven to very unfamiliar territory–the domain of the incredibly small and the incredibly heavy. The new world is a world in which both quantum mechanics and gravity are equally important. But mysteries remain. One of the biggest involved black holes. Famed physicist Stephen Hawking claimed that anything sucked in a black hole was lost forever. For three decades, Leonard Susskind and Hawking clashed over the an… More >>

The Black Hole War: My Battle with Stephen Hawking to Make the World Safe for Quantum Mechanics

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  1. #1 by Nigel Seel on June 26, 2010 - 8:53 am

    Susskind describes the decades-long battle between the quantum mechanics community and the general relativists as to whether information is lost when objects pass through the event horizon of a black hole and the hole eventually evaporates. According to Prof. Hawking and the GR community, as nothing can ever reappear from inside an event horizon, the information is indeed totally lost.

    Susskind and Gerard ‘t Hooft begged to differ. Loss of information would violate the basic time-reversibility of QM: Hawking’s ideas would lead to universe-destroying phenomena (p. 23). Somehow, the information locked the wrong side of the event horizon must leak out via Hawking radiation. But how?

    The resolution of this dilemma took many years of conjectures and refutations. Susskind takes us on a tour of entropy, holographic principles and physics at the Planck scale. And the adversarial plot keeps the reader turning the pages.

    I am normally very dubious about popularisations. They proceed by raking up endless analogies which never quite fit together, so that by the end of the book, your mind is like that jig-saw puzzle you bought and could never fit together.

    This book was never going to be the exception – the mathematics of quantum field theory, general relativity and string theory are just too arcane for popular culture concepts to cohere around. However, there are wonderful insights all the way through this book and we do end up learning something about the large scale map of the territory. Apparently even the experts find it hard to get the whole thing into one focus.
    Rating: 5 / 5

  2. #2 by Sanford Aranoff on June 26, 2010 - 11:05 am

    The book discusses a problem. According to Hawking, when an object falls down a black hole (BH), all information is lost. The problem is that this violates a principle of physics that information is never lost. The future cannot lose track of the past, for then the past would cease to exist, as the only meaning to the past is present observations and records. Susskind proposes a solution that took him a decade to resolve, and he discusses this in the book. The solution is the Holographic Principle, which is that all the information inside the 3-dimensional sphere of the BH resides on the 2-dimensional surface. An object falling down a BH never crosses the surface, and so the information is not lost. There is a “dual description” that does not refer to the inside.

    Susskind makes heavy use of String Theory to establish the theory. Actually, one can arrive at the same conclusion without the use of String Theory or quantum mechanics, by simply focusing on basic principles of physics and general relativity (GR). According to GR, it takes an object forever to reach the BH, and so it never gets inside. We therefore cannot speak about the inside. Everything falling down a BH is eternally falling, and so the information is not lost. We cannot speak about the inside of the BH. This then is exactly Susskind’s Holographic Principle, where all information is outside the BH.

    Science, and in particular physics, is a collection of theories. A theory is a mathematical system along with observational and experimental agreement. If it is impossible in principle to perform an observation, the theory cannot speak about that situation. Science also includes guesses, research proposals, and hypotheses, not all of which are theories.

    The confusion arises from the formal existence of a solution of GR that from the viewpoint of the falling object, the object crosses the event horizon in finite time. However, since it is impossible in principle to observe an object “entering” the BH, this formal solution does not exist in reality.

    If we accept the argument that something that a falling observer (someone who cannot return nor communicate with the rest of the world) can observe is considered as a valid scientific observation, we then lose our ability to criticize people for believing that the dead go to Heaven. The dead person (one who cannot return nor communicate with the rest of the world) observes Heaven. We scientists must be very careful about our scientific reasoning, and not give others the opportunity to twist it to make it sound as if we support religion, as is, unfortunately, often the case.

    In summary, the principle of objective observation implies that no object can enter a BH.

    Another point is that the formal solution of GR from the viewpoint of the falling observer is not a valid solution of GR. This is due to the proven existence of a singularity at the center. Since the object reaches the singularity in finite time, this solution is not valid. If we insist on accepting this formal solution, we get into paradoxes, as is usually the case when one accepts formal invalid solutions.

    According to the Holographic Principle, no future theory can discuss the inside of a BH.

    I gave four stars. The book makes excellent reading. It helps clarify some aspects of String Theory. For this, I give it three stars. His points about information residing outside the BH give it another star. I do not give it five stars, as his main point about where the information is can be proven by understanding and applying basic principles of science. We scientists and teachers must never lose sight of basic principles.

    Susskind makes the common error of defining a BH as a place where light cannot escape, implying that the idea of an inside of a BH is a meaningful concept, contradicting his own Holographic Principle. A correct definition of a BH is a mass so large that objects falling towards it are time-dilated and red-shifted out of existence.

    Another error in the book is mentioning “the 3-dimensional space inside the BH”. The geometry is very much non-Euclidean. Approaching a BH is geometrically similar to moving eternally outwards to the “end” of the universe. Speaking about the inside of a BH is geometrically similar to speaking about space outside the universe, i.e., not meaningful.

    Rating: 4 / 5

  3. #3 by Wojciech Langer on June 26, 2010 - 11:33 am

    This is absolutely the greatest example of what popular science book about theoretical physics/cosmology should be !! Writing is so brilliant, witty, straightforward, direct and succinct, that regardless of education level, anybody can enjoy interesting content (history of science as well as author’s personal story) of “The Black Hole War”. Author uses analogies in the best possible way, comparable only to Brian Greene and Michio Kaku. Drawings are frequent, well selected, informative and easy to understand. He writes: “The real tools for understanding the quantum universe are abstract mathematics: infinite dimensional Hilbert spaces, projection operators, unitary matrices and a lot of other advanced principles that take a few years to learn. But let’s see how we do in just a few pages”. AND HE DELIVERES !! While this book could be a starter for anybody, I recommend it to all who know Kip Thorne’s famous work. For reason unknown to me, important black hole “war” is not mentioned in “Black Holes & Time Warps” at all, therefore Susskind’s work becomes great extension to BH history of science. Professor Susskind created a true masterpiece where he even acknowledges coexistence of science and faith by writing: “The British intellectual world seems to be big enough for both Dawkins and Polkinghorne”. Nothing but big applaud for the author and his effort !!
    Rating: 5 / 5

  4. #4 by Mark on June 26, 2010 - 2:07 pm

    The Black Hole War: My Battle with Stephen Hawking to Make the World Safe for Quantum Mechanics is really several books in one. On the surface, this book tells the human story behind a debate that divided the physics community for decades: what happens to the information in the matter that is absorbed by a black hole, and can that information be retrieved or is it lost forever?

    Yet in attempting to explain the various interconnections between general relativity, quantum field theory and string theory, Susskind has also provided us with a second book: a great general physics primer. Thirdly, by effectively telling the history behind some science’s greatest discoveries, Susskind has penned a very nice book for those interested in the history of science. Finally Susskind has made all three of those books more accessible and enjoyable by infusing his off-color personality.

    This book covers a lot of ground, and at times it seems to lose a sense of flow as it delves into many different areas of physics, at each stop providing a primer of the basics. Yet by Chapter 5 the book really starts to heat up. Even though it is only five pages, they are five really good pages. This is where Susskind best makes the connection, calling a black hole horizon “the most concentrated form of information that the laws of nature allow.” As he guides us through the potential implications of information loss, he simplifies many complicated subjects without watering them down. We have wonderful treatments of the holographic and equivalence principles, entropy and the laws of thermodynamics. We also are treated to great historical accounts of the many conferences and papers that put faces and personalities behind the unraveling of the debate surrounding information loss and black holes.

    There are times when he seems to use footnotes to his own peril, such as his explanation of how to calculate entropy versus bits of information in Chapter 7. At first he indicates that they are calculated in the same way, but in his footnote he clarifies that they differ by a mathematical factor. I would have appreciated it more had he made his points accurately in the text instead of having to explain them in poorly structured footnotes.

    At least one other aspect of this book might, unfortunately, alienate some from what is an excellent read. Susskind is unapologetically irreverent regarding religion. In Chapter 17, while recounting his frustration with the information-loss debate, he discusses time he spent at Trinity College in Cambridge and how it gave him “Cathedralitis.” He outlines his disdain for the idea of intelligent design. There is also an inexplicably long section on Mormon history that seems totally irrelevant. These sections added little. His efforts to breathe life and personality into an abstract subject do give readers a sense of his personality. I simply think he should have steered clear of controversial topics.

    The only other warning I can give people regarding this book is to set aside sufficient time in order to truly digest it. While, in theory, one could read this book in a week, to think through and understand all the examples takes some time. This book took me a long time to digest, and the books I have waiting to be read have multiplied during that time.

    CONCLUSION

    Initially I suppose I was somewhat put-off by the self-serving aspect of Susskind writing a book that starts off sounding like “I am right and Hawking is wrong.” You have to read between the lines for it, but it’s unclear if Hawking saw Susskind as a key player in the original debate about black hole information loss. I personally suspect that what was a “war” to Susskind was less than that to Hawking. In the end, some think this debate may not be over.

    Where Susskind succeeds is in making an interesting story out of the debate. That makes readers want to understand some complex areas of physics, even if only from a 20,000 foot view. The way Susskind covers string theory and how it relates to other disciplines is particularly well done. For that alone, this book is worth the price of admission.

    This is a great book that is well worth your time. I plan to seek out Susskind’s other books soon.

    Enjoy.

    Rating: 4 / 5

  5. #5 by MikeK on June 26, 2010 - 3:25 pm

    If you are a fan of Black Hole theory, you have to read this book. There is enough intrigue here to keep you turning the pages, and the physics primer on Black Holes, Quantum Mechanics and Relativity is very approachable.

    This is not an in-depth book on the physics of Black Holes – on the contrary, this is an enjoyable read for those who appreciate the topic and respect the brilliance of Leonard Susskind. This book tells the story that few of us have heard (from any side) – and shows us the human side of theoretical physics.

    I have had the pleasure of attending lectures at Stanford with Prof. Susskind for the past 4 yrs. now. While his wit and colorful commentary do come out in the book, you will only get a glimpse of why he has such a following amongst “quantum groupies” and academics alike.

    I highly recommend this book.
    Rating: 5 / 5