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Distinguished physicist Gerald Schroeder offers a brilliant discussion of such topics as free will, the development of the universe, the origin of life, and the origin of man, arguing that the Bible and science are compatible and interdependent…. More >>

#1 by John David Young on June 26, 2010 - 5:28 pm
Several have said that this book is completely unconvincing for various reasons. The reasons tend to be as follows:
1. The author quotes non-Biblical sources such as Kabbalistic writings, therefore they have no relevance to the Bible.
2. The author does not read the Bible in a literal fashion from a person’s perspective on Earth (and that’s what the Bible was intended to be, damn it!).
3. The author is an idiot because he is trying to prove the existence of God, and it’s clear God doesn’t exist.
4. This book is no more than this person’s opinion, and therefore has no value.
Each of these reasons contains a kernel of truth, but little more. All of them show inconsistency in reasoning. To refute:
1. The non-Biblical sources such as commentary on Scripture CAN be true, even though they are not the primary source, i.e., the Bible itself. The logic in point one is presented thusly:
a. The Bible is true.
b. Source A is not the Bible.
c. Ergo, Source A is not true.
This is a non sequitur fallacy that implies that only the Bible contains truth, and everything else is false. Even the Bible itself says that there are things (specifically, other miracles of Christ) not mentioned in the Bible. Other works besides the Bible can be sources of truth, even if those works are not divinely inspired. (Example of inconsistency in reasoning in this logic: most who agree with number 1 will claim the above and then read other authors like Billy Graham or Hal Lindsey. If the writings of Billy Graham can contain truth, why not the writings of Josephus or the writings of Rambam?)
2. The whole point of this book is to attempt to square the text of the Bible with modern science. To those who would say that the author is out of bounds by interpreting the six-day creation story as being six days from God’s perspective (as opposed to the perspective of someone on Earth), let’s look at another passage. Is the bread and wine at the Last Supper LITERALLY the Body and Blood of Christ, or only symbolic? Most who hold to the logic evinced by point 2 would say that the Six Days were six days as we understand them, but that the bread and wine were only symbols of Christ’s Body and Blood. once again, this is inconsistent reasoning. Incidentally, as a Catholic, I believe that the bread and wine, are, in fact, the actual Body and Blood after the Consecration. Also, nothing in the Bible says that EVERY word in the Bible is absolutely literal, so to assume otherwise violates the (also unbiblical, yet ironically assumed by many) tenet of Sola Scriptura.
3. If you accept premise number 3, you are no scientist. Theists, atheists, and agnostics can all be good scientists. Since we cannot disprove the existence of God, it is an irresponsible (and unscientific) person who claims that only atheists can be real scientists. We are free to discuss problems in logic of the various religions, but to dismiss out of hand the possiblity of the existence of a Creator is to be in denial.
4. This may be the most ridiculous premise of all. Of course this book is only this man’s opinion. He does not claim it to be a religious text. He only says that he is trying to find a way to reconcile what seem to be completely exclusive opinions. Also, in the same vein, of course his postulates are untestable. So is Darwin’s theory of evolution, as it would take millions of years from now for us to observe any real macroevolution. That does not mean that Darwin was wrong, nor does it mean that this author is wrong. On the other hand, Einstein’s theory of relativity has been tested. Without a counterexample, it cannot logically be assumed to be false. Certain parts of evolutionary theory, such as microevolution, HAVE been tested and shown to be true as well.
I, as I said, am a Catholic. In reading this book, I find my faith greatly strengthened. Not because this man or his work is specifically Catholic in nature (I think he is an Israeli Jew), but because his work lends scientific backing and independent credibility to what the Catholic Church has always taught. St. Augustine, in the 4th century AD, said that we should always have “faith seeking understanding”. He also said that if science or OUR UNDERSTANDING of Scripture are at odds, then one of them is incorrect. For many years, Creationists have said that science was wrong, and Evolutionists have said that Scripture was wrong. What is beautiful about this book, is that it shows that both of these groups could be wrong about their assumptions, and all the while both groups could be right about their core beliefs. Does this mean that both might have to modify their worldviews to accept this thesis? Yes, however, this modification neither endangers faith nor science, but should strengthen both. Because of the fact that Catholic teaching is bolstered by these ideas, this is definitely a must-read for Catholics. Actually, I think it is a must-read for all who seek truth.
Those who say that nothing in this book changes their minds about anything (unless, of course, they already agree 100% with the author), are either not actually reading the book, or their minds are SO closed that they believe they already know everything worth knowing. (If the latter is the case, why bother reading? Reading a book only to create a straw man is not evidence of a person seeking truth, but only that of a person with a closed mind. Only God knows everything.)
Obviously, as this man is not God, nor is inspired directly by Him, this work is not perfect. But it is definitely gourmet food for thought.
Rating: 5 / 5
#2 by Chris Redford on June 26, 2010 - 7:14 pm
The main reason I chose to write this review was to clear up some of the misunderstandings in other reviews about Schroeder’s time calculations. The choice of the factor million million is NOT arbitrary. It is based off of the redshift of cosmic background radiation between quark confinement and approximately the present. It is also related to the change in temperature from quark confinement to the present. I double-checked this temperature change in “Physics for Scientists and Engineers with Modern Physics: Volume II (3rd Edition)”.
Actual review: this book is great. As a christian, I had fears when I began reading it. I see this fear when evolution is mentioned in my church. It is the fear that your entire life is based on something that doesn’t agree with the facts, that you have been missing the truth.
But in reading it, my faith in the Bible is stronger than it has ever been. It is true what he says: an understanding of the works of God comes not only from the Bible, but from a firm understanding of science. Don’t blink at the facts. Read this book and understand why there is no reason for conflict between two of God’s greatest creations.
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6 years later (2009)…
This review has apparently been helpful to so many people that it is now the top-rated review. I am honored and grateful that so many people found affinity with what I said.
This also happened to my review of Schroeder’s other book, The Hidden Face of God. However, like that review, I am probably about to lose my spot as the top-rated review because I feel an overriding responsibility to be honest.
The Science of God was an important book for me. It got me seriously thinking about science and evidence. It is what propelled me to reach beyond the small religious world I had relegated myself to and to start talking seriously to other people about the truth. I believed Schroeder’s arguments were the key to uniting science and the Bible.
However, after years of studying, researching, thinking, and discussing, I no longer agree with the arguments I presented above in support of the book.
1 REDSHIFT
It is true that the choice of the factor million million (10^12) is not *completely* arbitrary. It is indeed based off of the redshift of cosmic background radiation between quark confinement and the present.
But there is a problem.
There were 3 primary eras during the big bang. The GUT era (10^32 to 10^27). The Hadron era (10^27 to 10^12). And the Lepton era (10^12 to 10^10). Amazing things were happening to quarks and other sub-atomic particles in all of these eras.
Now here is the punch-line: there is no scientific reason to select the end of the Hadron era (10^12) as the time when the universe “really” started. The only plausible reason I can think for selecting this temperature is that Schroeder wanted his calculations to work out. And so he personally (and subjectively) selected that temperature.
This can all be verified from the same diagram I used 6 years ago: “Physics for Scientists and Engineers with Modern Physics: Volume II (3rd Edition)”. Page 1162, Figure 45-24.
2 SCIENCE AND THE BIBLE
After years of study and thought, I can no longer agree that Science and The Bible are compatible. The Bible was created by religion. And science was created by the scientific method.
Now, let me start by saying that there are two very important things that science and religion agree about:
1) There is truth
2) We can find that truth
That is, there is a true reality behind this existence and there are ways that we can know about the greater truths of this reality. We can know about things that we can’t even see with our own eyes. These truths can be revealed to us.
But there is also one very important thing that science and religion disagree about. And that is HOW these truths will be revealed.
A) According to religion’s rules, truths about the universe can simply be *asserted* and believed because they feel right to the individual or because someone else asserted them a long time ago. According to religion, once a statement is asserted about the universe (e.g. “God exists”), that statement can be treated as THE truth and can never be questioned without destroying the religion.
B) According to science’s rules, truths about the universe can only be discovered through careful and thorough study of external evidence. According to science, when a statement is believed about the universe (e.g. “time is absolute”), that statement can and should be questioned. If external evidence causes us to doubt that statement, science becomes stronger because it receives new answers.
Here is the conflict: both science and religion are trying to define the same universe simultaneously. These two rule-sets directly contradict each other.
If scientists tried to discover truths using rule-set (A), there would be no science. Just a bunch of warring cultural opinions, like todays world religions. But because they discover truths using rule-set (B), science is unified. There is a consensus. In science, we all believe the same things about reality because what we believe is not based on personal feelings (of either ourselves or people who lived thousands of years ago): it is based on external evidence that can be verified at any time.
I applaud Schroder for supporting evolution and the big bang. But when it comes to the topics of God and the Bible, he stops thinking like a scientist.
He is no longer asking: “What does the evidence say? What does it motivate us to believe is true?” He is now asking: “How can I present the evidence in a way that it will appear to support my personal beliefs, which I was not motivated to believe in by evidence?”
Rating: 5 / 5
#3 by Anonymous on June 26, 2010 - 7:40 pm
As a scientist in an ongoing search for truth, I have been disappointed by ham-handed efforts of the creation crowd to cling to extreme minority viewpoints of credentialed scientists from diverse fields of science that would collectively be required to support a *literal* interpretation of Genesis. Similarly, I have been mystified by scientists who reflexively dismiss the idea of some kind of intelligent design outright by way of circular reasoning, arguing that since intelligent design can never be disproven, it is not scientific and thus could not be truth, since only science can properly assess truth.
It is hard to understate, then, the moxie of Schroeder’s innovative attempt to reconcile with Genesis scientifically DOMINANT paradigms (i.e. universe many billions of years old, terrestrial life hundreds of millions of years old, species variation to extensive degree by alteration or differential expression of genes). Schroeder introduces his intent thus: “In the following chapters, I attempt to avoid the subjective tendency of bending Bible to match science or science to match Bible.” (softcover p.19) Whether he was successful or not is in the eye of the reader, but the explicit intent is refreshing.
This book, then, would be of particular interest to two groups:
1) Scientists who wonder how their mainstream conclusions could possibly be reconciled with ancient accounts of creation from the Hebrew Torah.
2) Jews and Christians who are discomforted by the apparent incompatability between the text of their faith versus the observed truth about our planet and universe as collected and interpreted by the VAST MAJORITY of professional scientists.
The prime example of this reconciliation is Schroeder’s attempt to fit a 15-billion year old universe with the six-day account of Genesis by arguing that: 1) from a collective, “Creation-wide” perspective, time advanced differently in the primordial hot universe (time dilation), and 2) that “days” in the ancient hebrew text only adopted the terrestrial perception (instead of universal perception) of time passage upon the creation of man late in the “creation” process.
Later chapters address other issues, such as the likelihood that genetic variation by mutation at rates observed in today’s laboratories (or even much greater rates) were sufficient to generate the speciation evidenced in the fossil record within the abbreviated time-frame indicated by the fossil record itself.
By virtue of his theological background and professional training (MIT-trained physicist), Schroeder is uniquely qualified to attempt such a reconciliation. However, as evidenced by several previous reviews, this training is not enough– at least not enough to win over skeptical scientists. It may be that the sheer enormity of burgeoning data within each of the fields (molecular genetics, population genetics, paleontology, geology, as well as cosmology and particle physics) is simply too great for one individual to incorporate into solid perspective within *each and every* discipline to present an airtight case on all scientific fronts.
Previous reviewers have asserted gross inaccuracies with the science presented in this book. As a clinical neuroscientist, I am not in a position to assault or defend Schroeder on evolution, genetics, particle physics or cosmology. However, I would argue against throwing the baby out with the bathwater. For example, the latest data on cosmic background radiation indicates an accelerating expansion of the universe, and an approximate age of 13.7 billion years instead of the 15 Schroeder cites. Must this nullify the core of his whole premise? Maybe so, but not enough to discard this book out of hand.
The strength of this work is in its innovation. Schroeder rightly notes that the Bible is silent on many subjects, and actually leaves room for many observed phenomena, such as speciation and niche-filling by DNA alteration. It is only the rigid mindset of many religious individuals that closes this possibility.
The weaknesses of the book lie in the specific physical science undergirding Schroeder’s arguments, as well as in his over-reliance on conjecture. I thus was left with the same mind-set I had before I read the book, namely that the simplest explanation for why the Genesis account is not borne out by the findings of mainstream science is that Genesis was inspired and spoke great *truth* on a metaphorical and didactic level– but not at a literal level.
On the whole, I found it a fascinating read. In accord with previous reviewers, I liken this effort to a Model-T. Crude in the light of today, yet innovative at its introduction, with the potential to be honed with further investment in this line of reasoning. This whole line of inquiry would benefit enormously by some kind of COLLABORATIVE work, with each chapter penned by a bona-fide expert in that field of the physical sciences, where this expert can build a much more solid case in conjunction with the totality of data in his or her field. I could even envision anonymous contribution, inasmuch as publicly arguing for some kind of intelligent designer is probably not conducive to garnering tenure in the Paleontology Department of Secular State University….
Rating: 4 / 5
#4 by Esther Nebenzahl on June 26, 2010 - 9:23 pm
Here we have one more crusader, a distinguished physicist and Biblical scholar, trying to bridge the gap between religion and science, showing that what might appear as diametrically opposed descriptions of the creation of the universe, of the start of life on Earth, and our human origins, are in fact identical realities viewed from different perspectives. His theological sources are the hewbrew Bible, the Talmud, and the 13th century kabalist Nahmanides.
Schroeder tackles the issue of Darwin’s theory of evolution and its flaws (”nature does not make jumps” versus “natures only makes jumps”), quantum uncertainty, relativity, cosmic background radiation, convergent evolution, anthropic argument, and other recent scientific innovations. All of these issues are placed side by side with Biblical and kabalist commentaries.
The result is an amazing tapestry where the six days of creation match scientific description (time dilation), the Biblical “bere’shith” is the beginning of time, matter, and space, quantum mechanics is the graveyard of determinism and confirmation of free will, and the scientific “insufficient caused event” is the age-old Biblical definition of a miracle. There is room for concepts such as: God was to chose Abraham only long after Abraham had chosen God, scientific confirmation that less-than-human creatures with human-like bodies and brains existed before Adam, and pre-programmed DNA.
It is in fact an “Amazing Technicolor Raincoat,” weaved by a brilliant mind. Schroeder may be accused for “seeing reality as he assumes it to be,” and for far-fetching his Biblical interpretations. It is clear, however, that his honest intentions are not to bring disruptions but rather contribute to the convergence of science and theology. Needless to say, strict believers on each side of the fence will have to open their minds.
Rating: 5 / 5
#5 by David C. Leaumont on June 26, 2010 - 11:39 pm
Schroeder’s book does a superb job of evoking new thought on this subject and ongoing debate of exactly how God created the earth. There are many theories, such as Day-Age, Gap, Flood and Literal-24 Hour Day. But, Schroeder brings another idea into the equation, that of Einstein’s relativity. A very interesting read.
While Schroeder’s scientific approach is novel, his theological sources are suspect. Maimonides, a 13th century Jewish philosopher, was one of his major sources for theology. Conservative Christian teachings of all congregations today would disagree with these ideas. Nahmanides, also from the 13th century, was a Jewish Biblical commentator and kabbalist. His ideas are closer to today’s beliefs, but both of these sources were in a theological no-man’s land of time. They were far removed from the authors, the cultural/linguistic aspects behind the Torah of Scripture and they did not benefit from the scholarship of the past 150 years. While these are good sources of reading, they are not the place to rest ideas of theology regarding Creation because of these issues.
Schroeder brings up a SUPERB observation regarding those involved in the debate of Creationism versus Atheistic Macro-Evolution. Very few people involved in the debate are highly knowledgeable regarding both sides of the argument. Most scientists have a “high-school level” or lower understanding of theology and most supporters of Biblical Creationism have the same level of understanding of science. Very few are well-versed in both.
Schroeder delves deep into scientific discussion supporting Creation and Biblical accounts. This is interesting and is much too deep for those not trained in science. There is some superb theory put forth, but this is really for graduate level study.
This is not the book to start an investigation in the theories of Creation and Evolution, but after much reading, this could be an interesting book to read to get deeper inputs.
Rating: 3 / 5